Lenny (00:00:00): You've worked at so many great companies. At YouTube, when you joined, my understanding is YouTube was losing a lot of money. Noam Lovinsky (00:00:05): There were many times where Google leadership reconsidered the acquisition and, "Should we sell YouTube?" if you can believe it or not. Lenny (00:00:11): At Thumbtack, it looks like you went from 1 to -1 and then back to 1. Noam Lovinsky (00:00:15): I remember in a board meeting, the new model really started to show legs and one of the board members, Brian Schreier at Sequoia, said it was the prettiest smile graph that he had ever seen. Lenny (00:00:23): When you were at Facebook, you built what is called the New Product Experimentation team trying to create a startup within a startup. Noam Lovinsky (00:00:29): You're thinking on a different time horizon. If you're a large organization and you do some performance management process twice a year and you're 0 to 1 incubator, you've already killed it. It's the wrong incentive. Lenny (00:00:39): As the chief product officer of Grammarly, I'm curious what word you most often misspelled? Noam Lovinsky (00:00:47): The. Lenny (00:00:47): You do T-E-H? Noam Lovinsky (00:00:48): T-E-H. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Lenny (00:00:49): Oh man. (00:00:53): Today my guest is Noam Lovinsky. Noam is currently chief product officer at Grammarly. Previously, he was an early PM at YouTube where he spent five years leading the creator product experience and then the broader YouTube consumer product experience. He then went on to take on the chief product officer role at Thumbtack, which involved helping the company reignite growth after a downturn caused by some changes Google made in SEO. He then went on to Facebook where he created the New Product Experimentation team whose charter was to incubate big new ideas protected from the larger Facebook org. (00:01:26): Noam has such a unique set of experiences taking products from 0 to 1, from -1 to 1, from 1 ...