Lenny Rachitsky (00:00:00): You were a product leader at Dropbox, then Instacart. Now, you're the PM of the most consequential product in history. Nick Turley (00:00:05): I didn't know what I would do here because it was a research lab. My first task was I fix the blinds, or something like that. Lenny Rachitsky (00:00:11): When someone offers you a rocket ship, don't ask which seat. Nick Turley (00:00:13): We set out to build a super assistant. It was supposed to be a hackathon code base. Lenny Rachitsky (00:00:16): What was it called before? Nick Turley (00:00:17): It was going to be Chat with GPT-3.5 because we really didn't think it was going to be a successful product. Lenny Rachitsky (00:00:21): And then Sam Altman is just like, "Hey, let me tweet about it." Nick Turley (00:00:23): This is a pattern with AI, you won't know what to polish until after you ship. My dream is that we ship daily. Lenny Rachitsky (00:00:28): By the time people hear this, they're going to have their hands on GPT-5. Nick Turley (00:00:31): About 10% of the world population uses every week. With scale comes responsibility. It just feels a little bit more alive, a bit more human. This model has taste. Lenny Rachitsky (00:00:38): Kevin Weil, your CPO, said to ask you about this principle of, "Is it maximally accelerated?" Nick Turley (00:00:43): I just really want to jump to the punchline, "Why can't we do this now?" I always felt like part of my role here is to just set the pace and the resting heartbeat. Lenny Rachitsky (00:00:49): Everyone is always wondering, "Is Chat the future of all of this stuff?" Nick Turley (00:00:52): Chat was the simplest way to ship at that time. I'm baffled by how much it took off, even more baffled by how many people have copied. Lenny Rachitsky (00:00:58): ChatGPT is now driving more traffic to my newsletter than Twitter. Nick Turley (00:01:02): That is the type of capability that has been incredibly retentive. I've been really excited about ...