Michael Truell (00:00:00):
... our goal with Cursor is to invent a new type of programming, a very different way to build software. So a world kind of after code, I think that more and more being an engineer will start to feel like being a logic designer, and really, it will be about specifying your intent for how exactly you want everything to work.
Lenny Rachitsky (00:00:16):
What is the most counter-intuitive thing you've learned so far about building Cursor?
Michael Truell (00:00:20):
We definitely didn't expect to be doing any of our own model development. And at this point, every magic moment in Cursor involves a custom model in some way.
Lenny Rachitsky (00:00:26):
What's something that you wish you knew before you got into this role?
Michael Truell (00:00:29):
Many people you hear hire too fast, I think we actually hired too slow to begin with.
Lenny Rachitsky (00:00:35):
You guys went from $0 to 100 million ARR in a year and a half, which is historic. Was there an inflection point where things just started to really take off?
Michael Truell (00:00:43):
The growth has been fairly just consistent on an exponential. And exponential to begin with feels fairly slow when the numbers are really low, and it didn't really show off to the races to begin with.
Lenny Rachitsky (00:00:51):
What do you think is the secret to your success?
Michael Truell (00:00:53):
I think it's been...
Lenny Rachitsky (00:00:55):
Today, my guest is Michael Truell. Michael is co-founder and CEO of Anysphere, the company behind Cursor. If you've been living under a rock and haven't heard of Cursor, it is the leading AI code editor, and is at the very forefront of changing how engineers and product teams build software. It's also one of the fastest growing products of all time, hitting 100 million ARR just 20 months after launching, and then 300 million ARR just two years since launch.
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Michael's been working on AI for 10 years. He studied computer science and math at M...