Farhan Thawar (00:00:00):
If you do the hard path and it doesn't work, actually you still win because you've now done something hard. You've probably worked with smart people. You've learned something along the way that is valuable. I meet lots of job seekers. I go, what are you doing to try to find a job? Are you really learning anything from sending out 10 resumes a day? Why don't you look at the API Docs and build something? Even if you don't get a job at Shopify, you've learned something.
Lenny Rachitsky (00:00:20):
First, I want to talk about another theme, creating intensity in your organization.
Farhan Thawar (00:00:24):
Everyone says, "Oh yeah, work hard and do more hours when you're young, whatever." I'm like, "What if you just did more per minute?"
Lenny Rachitsky (00:00:29):
The more I dig into the Shopify way working, the more fun stuff I never expected emerges. There's been a drive to delete code and simplify.
Farhan Thawar (00:00:37):
We have a Delete Code Club. We can always almost find a million-plus lines of code to delete, which is insane.
Lenny Rachitsky (00:00:42):
I found this great quote from you, "Not everyone can look stupid in public over and over, but I believe it's my superpower."
Farhan Thawar (00:00:48):
I have been in many situations with many sharp people who have said to me, that's the stupidest fucking question I've ever heard. My goal there is not to annoy the person, but it's to understand the content.
Lenny Rachitsky (00:00:59):
I was looking at your LinkedIn and your career history, and I noticed that you've worked for a different billionaire every decade of your life.
Farhan Thawar (00:01:05):
They're mostly different people, but they're similar in one thing is that they haven't...
Lenny Rachitsky (00:01:12):
Today my guest is Farhan Thawar. Farhan is Vice President and Head of Engineering at Shopify. Shopify is an incredibly interesting company because they have over 10,000 employees who are fully remote, and even thou...