Lenny Rachitsky (00:00:00):
The business you're building, the team you're building, the way you're operating is the very bleeding edge of how companies are trying to operate in this AI era.
Dan Shipper (00:00:07):
We have a head of AI operations. She's just constantly building prompts and building workflows that I and everyone else on the team are just automating as much as possible.
Lenny Rachitsky (00:00:16):
What are some things that you believe about AI that most people don't?
Dan Shipper (00:00:20):
I hate the headlines that are like, "Entry-level jobs are taken away by AI." Whenever I see a kid with ChatGPT, I'm like, "Holy shit, they're going to go so much faster than any other person that I've worked with." We have this guy, he made a year's worth of progress in two months because every time I sat down with him and told him, "Okay, here's how you tell a story, here's how you think about a headline," he recorded all of it, put it into a prompt, and he never made the same mistake twice.
Lenny Rachitsky (00:00:40):
There's this sense we're getting to a place where you don't have to write any code, you have a product team not writing code at all.
Dan Shipper (00:00:46):
No one is manually coding anymore. Organizations like ours, people who are playing at the edge, we're doing things that, in three years, everybody else is going to be doing.
Lenny Rachitsky (00:00:55):
Today, my guest is Dan Shipper. Dan is the co-founder and CEO of Every, which is a company that is at the very bleeding edge of what is possible with AI. Their team of just 15 employees has built and shipped four different products. They publish a daily newsletter, and they have a consulting arm that helps companies adopt the latest AI best practices. On their product team, their engineers don't handwrite a single line of code and instead use an arsenal of agents who help them craft requirements and build their products.
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Their editorial arm uses AI to publish better work faster, ...