Lenny Rachitsky (00:00:00):
Everyone's always complaining SEO's dead, it can't grow. Word of mouth is so hard.
Brian Balfour (00:00:03):
All of the ingredients for new distribution platform are essentially happening. My prediction, the new distribution platform will be ChatGPT. There's a bunch of signals that they're about to launch that.
Lenny Rachitsky (00:00:14):
This is a huge opportunity for companies to get on it.
Brian Balfour (00:00:16):
It ends up being a prisoner's dilemma. Don't trick yourself into thinking that you can't play the game. The cycles seem to be getting shorter and shorter, so you actually have a smaller amount of time. If you don't do it, your competitors are going to go to the new platform and your customer expectations change. There is no opting out of the game.
Lenny Rachitsky (00:00:31):
This is the opportunity to disrupt an incumbent.
Brian Balfour (00:00:33):
If you're a late-stage company, you place multiple bets. For startups, it's a totally different ballgame. You have to choose one and go all in.
Lenny Rachitsky (00:00:40):
Think about companies like Zynga that grew on Facebook and then became massive companies.
Brian Balfour (00:00:43):
Building a great product is one of those things that's necessary, but not sufficient. And actually the separation is between those that build really great distribution.
Lenny Rachitsky (00:00:52):
What would be the backup if not ChatGPT?
Brian Balfour (00:00:54):
My hypothesis of who's best-positioned would actually be...
Lenny Rachitsky (00:00:59):
Today, my guest is Brian Balfour. Brian is the founder and CEO of Reforge, a company that I've been a long-time fan and advocate of. Historically, Reforge has focused primarily on teaching courses on product and growth, but more recently they've transitioned to building their own products, including a product called Reforge Insights and a bunch more really cool stuff coming very soon.
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Prior to Reforge, Brian led growth at H...