Ben Horowitz (00:00:00):
The worst thing that you do as a leader is you hesitate on the next decision. The thing that causes you to hesitate is both decisions are horrible. Probably one of my bigger ones on that was we went public with $2 million in trailing 12 months revenue at 18 months old. That's obviously a bad idea. But the truth of it was the alternative was going bankrupt, and that's a worse idea.
Lenny Rachitsky (00:00:23):
It's a very difficult and painful to be a CEO, to be a founder. In spite of that. So many people want to start companies.
Ben Horowitz (00:00:29):
The psychological muscle you have to build to be a great leader is to be able to click in the abyss and go, "Okay, that way's slightly better. We're going to go that way. If everybody agrees with the decision, then you didn't add any value because they would've done that without you." So the only value you ever add is when you make a decision that most people don't like.
Lenny Rachitsky (00:00:47):
You are famous for writing one of the most popular pieces of literature for product managers.
Ben Horowitz (00:00:52):
What I was trying to get out in Good Product Manager, Bad Product Manager, was the job is fundamentally a leadership job. And it's a tricky leadership job because nobody is actually reporting to you.
Lenny Rachitsky (00:01:06):
There's always this kind of sense that the PM is not the mini CEO. How dare you call yourself that? I actually think that's exactly what the PM is.
Ben Horowitz (00:01:12):
It doesn't matter if you write a good, spec or you have a good interview or you do this or do that. What matters is that the product works.
Lenny Rachitsky (00:01:21):
Today my guest is Ben Horowitz. Ben is the Z in A16Z, the world's largest venture capital firm with over 46 billion in committed capital. They're investors in OpenAI, Cursor, Andrel, Databricks, Figma, basically every generational tech company. He's also the author of two New York Times bestselling books, the Hard Thi...