Aparna Chennapragada (00:00:00):
I have a cheesy Chrome extension. Literally whenever I open a new tab, it just says, how can you use AI to do what you're going to do right now?
Lenny Rachitsky (00:00:06):
How do you see the future of product development being different?
Aparna Chennapragada (00:00:09):
If you're not prototyping and building to see what you want to build, I think you're doing it wrong. It becomes even more important to have that territorial and taste-making at the heart of it because, otherwise, you just have a Frankenstein product.
Lenny Rachitsky (00:00:23):
There's this acronym that you taught me, NLX. What is that?
Aparna Chennapragada (00:00:26):
Natural language interface. NLX is the new UX. Often I hear a product builders say, "Oh, yeah. With AI, the model eats the products." That doesn't mean it's not designed. You and I are having a conversation. It's a podcast. I'll have another conversation at Microsoft and that's a meeting. Conversations also have grammars. They have structures. They have UI elements. They're invisible. What are the new principles, new constructs in natural language as an interface?
Lenny Rachitsky (00:00:52):
I just saw that Cursor hit 300 million ARR in two years. Interestingly, you guys were very well positioned to do really well in this AI coding tool space. You guys had Copilot, the first tool in the world at this stuff. So ahead of everyone, what happened?
Aparna Chennapragada (00:01:06):
I would say...
Lenny Rachitsky (00:01:08):
Today my guest is Aparna Chennapragada. Aparna is chief product officer at Microsoft where she oversees AI product strategy for their productivity tools and their work on agents. Previously, she was chief product officer at Robinhood, vice president at Google, where she worked on Google lens, search, shopping, augmented reality, AI assistant, and a lot more. She was also a long-time engineering leader at Akamai, and on the board of eBay and Capital One.
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